For directors of many Financial Engineering (MFE) and quantitative finance master programs, 2009 is a year they would rather forget. After years of unabated growth of popularity and annually triple-digit increase in number of applicants, things seemed to head into a unfamiliar territory at the beginning of the year.
As the global financial crisis worsened by the day, the future of modern financial industry seems pretty much in doubt. From Shanghai to Mumbai, recent college graduates aspired to a job on Wall Street began to second guess their thinking. Concerned applicants flooded discussion boards to seek comfort and justification for their hard earned investment. When words spread that many graduates of top programs returned to home countries after months of unfruitful job searches, many prospective students decided to wait out the financial storm or join another line of work.
As a result, application numbers fell across many established and competitive MFE programs. Carnegie Mellon University reported a 20% drop in 2009 number of applicants to its venerable Master of Computational Finance (MSCF) program after reaching an all-time high a year before. The relative new kid on the block, Baruch MFE program saw its numbers dropping a stunning 32% after receiving more than 500 applicants in 2008. Elsewhere, the story was similar. From west coast’s Berkeley MFE to east coast’s Princeton MFin, the message was clear: brace for hard time ahead.
As students across this great nation started a new school year this week, we have a chance to look at the numbers gathered from various MFE programs. What we saw was telling. Like the new financial system emerged from the greatest crisis in decades, many programs are heading back to their pre-2009 level while some appear to level off. At least one program is declining in popularity.
From first glance, it’s clear that not all is rosy. No program has regained the level of 2008 in term of admission number. While CMU MSCF, Baruch MFE, Columbia MFE have the biggest recovery with triple digit increase in the total number, the biggest surprise comes from the MFin program at MIT’s Sloan which has 947 applicants in its second year from 175 a year earlier. Of equally shocking is the UCB MFE program from Haas which sees its numbers slipping for two years in a row. In 2010, it received 333 applicants, a far 30% cry from its peak in 2008. In 2009, it received 401 applicants, only 15% down from a year earlier.
Explaining the astronomical rise in application number this year, Andrew Lo, Harris & Harris Group Professor told me that MIT did not advertise the MFin program in its inaugural year. Indeed, text-based and banner ads touting the one-year program have been spotted since early this year on various education forums and finance websites running Google Adwords system.
While UCB MFE program has been a long time buyer of Google text-ads for certain keywords (“quantitative finance”, “financial engineering”), recent programs joining in the keyword-based advertising push are Rutgers Mathematical Finance, Hawaii Shidler’s MFE, Rutgers Quantitative Finance (another program from Rutgers from its business school), UIUC MFE. The list will certainly keep growing as programs experiment with non-traditional channel to reach prospective students.
The following chart displays the official admission numbers only from programs that post the data for at least the past five years. Big kudos to all of them for being transparent.

NOTE: Using official admission numbers from the website of UCB MFE, CMU MSCF, Baruch MFE, Princeton MFin, Stanford FinMath as well as from numerous conversations and email exchanges with officials at other programs, the data bellow represents the most extensive effort to date to gather all available admission numbers in one place.
Table 1: Admitted/Enrolled/Applied numbers
| 2006 | 2007 | 2008 | 2009 | 2010 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Baruch MFE | 36/26/184 | 42/35/337 | 57/40/514 | 29/24/352 | 35/28/467 |
| Boston Uni MathFin | -/-/160 | -/-/214 | 178/69/302 | 103/49/324 | 151/44/825 |
| CMU MSCF | 131/84/513 | 176/109/741 | 153/95/868 | 126/70/631 | 151/93/784 |
| Columbia MFE | - | - | - | 110/57/517 | 110/60/607 |
| MIT MFin | 38/27/179 | 90/58/947 | |||
| NYU MathFin | -/33/500 | -/31/750 | -/30/900 | -/27/650 | 77/38/700 |
| Princeton MFin | 46/27/418 | 48/35/459 | 40/30/664 | 24/19/591 | 31/25/605 |
| Rutgers MathFin | -/7/- | -/5/- | -/43/- | -/57/- | |
| Stanford FinMath | 30/-/167* | 30/-/175* | 50/-/330* | 19/13/312 | 22/14/308 |
| UCB MFE | 91/59/243 | 83/65/367 | 90/65/474 | 101/65/401 | 105/67/333 |
| UCLA MFE | -/39/175 | 54/41/205 |
While extra care has been taken in the preparation of the material presented in this article, there is no warranty or guarantee as to the data, calculation or content accuracy.
- - numbers unavailable or programs declined to provide
- * numbers calculated using partial data gleaned from archived webpages.
- Stanford FinMath only provides detailed admitted/enrolled/total numbers since 2009. Prior to that, it only provides the admit numbers as percentage.
- The UCLA MFE and MIT MFin programs enrolled its first class in 2009.
- The numbers for NYU program do not take into account part-time/non degree/certificate numbers
Tags: Baruch MFE, cmu mscf, columbia MFE, MIT MFin, nyu mathfin, Princeton MFin, UCB MFE, ucla mfe
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There seems to be a correlation between the cost of the course and drop in numbers, which I guess is not that surprising.
DominiConnor, 1 year agobaruch MFE is not in the league of all other colleges mentioned here ….
Bravo Jack, 1 year agoIt is, since this article is about programs who post admission numbers. Baruch, Berkeley, Carnegie Mellon are the only ones who post numbers publicly. QN got the rest.
guest, 1 year agoAt bravo…
raj, 1 year agoHave you checked out the background of people in Baruch mfe?
or atleast taken a course from their pre mfe program? It’s highly challenging. Rumor goes the highest grade from the probability seminar was an 80. Baruch mfe has never berated any other programs.
All students from there speak very highly of it. Also many professors from nyu and Columbia(one who teaches the high frequency course) teach at Baruch. Baruch as a college is not in a league of it’s own. That’s true. the aim of the college is to offer quality education at a low cost. . But Baruch mfe is a different story. To get a job in wallstreet, one does not need an mfe degree from prestigious universities. A art degree from them would suffice. Believe me. I worked for a private equity firm and the vice president of our department was a philosophy major from Princeton. But you will believe me once you apply to Baruch mfe and get rejected. Then you might think Baruch mfe is a league of it’s own
I’m wondering, so what if the number of applicants dropped 32% from 500? The actual class size will only be 30-50 students; plenty of these applicants will still not get selected. What difference will it make to the school (apart from the decrease in application fees)?
Alvin, 1 year agoAlvin,
The effect is more pronounced at programs that have a quota of seats they try to fill. Programs like Columbia, UCB, CMU all have class size of 60 or more so the reduced number of applicants and unpredictable yield rate result in programs admit more students from a smaller pool so they can’t be as selective as they would like.
The lost revenue in application fee is negligible. We are talking about a decrease of 100-200 applications at an average of $100.
Andy Nguyen, 1 year agoWhy does UCB have such low numbers?
HS, 10 months agoThey are supposed to be very strong!!
Is it because of their high application fee?
HS, 10 months agoandy,i am considering whether to apply msmf or mfe. since my long time career goal is to do m&a in IB,which program should i choose? should i choose msf only?
Tingweinana, 3 months ago