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yes.

Well they even added another round of admissions. This clearly shows they didnot get good applicants and the ones which were admitted are backing out. Shame on MIT brand.

i got too. i think everyone got it.

Well i think one reason why MIT placement is poor compared to Columbia MFE or CMU MSCF is because their program is not true Quant program. I would not expect any better by any 1 year program in Finance.

very poor Placement stats by MIT

Clear sign of less number of applications.

good work Andy.

you seemed to be lot more concerned than him.

i think the person never asked if the GRE only will get you in grad school. His question is more like on importance of Verbal score and in my opinion 90 percent on verbal is not the threshold where questions get raised.

i think around 60 percentile is the level around which it is still ok. below 50 percent i think is looked a little negatively.

Please search the forum for your questions as you will find lot of questions already answered. You need to be more professional and do some homework before just asking people out there.

Most of the programming work at CMU is in C++ hence they recommend that the student has some C++ experience

weird??

hope Columbia University gives you better result. Also the acceptance rate of Baruch is very low so you could have expected that

what was the persons GRE quant score? Maybe he/she had 800+400. Also i am surprised that after doing Bachelors in Fin Math your quant score is just 750.

i dont think you can do any "meaningful" C++ without the knowledge of pointers.

Students who are ready to invest $ 75000 in CMU MSCF would not leave UCB application for $125 (extra cost compared to CMU application). I think it has to do more with location of UCB and more importantly the timing of admission deadlines of UCB.

What would you say are the top quant programs in UK?

good Sudeep. u got it.

thats right. it says in the application

did you try doing any research by yourself before posting this question on the forum? you can begin here: http://www.quantnet.com/forum/threads/m-s-finance-vs-mba-vs-mfe.1013/

Deniz Sezer made a fake account by the name of JoeM???

I personally think it is Quantnet ranking effect.

never heard that before in my life

As an CS/Math major, i think it is very true. Also i was a Finance major initially but switched from Finance to Math

no, 1 course grade doesnt say anything

Java is not really used much in time sensitive industry

very rightly said. The small business in India owners are about to be washed away.

yes i have

Considering that you have a little weak math background, want to do MFE and eventually get into trading, you should go for a program hosted by the business school rather than Math or Engineering school.Example: MIT. Also you need to start making quick moves if you are targeting 2012.

you dont need MFE to get into trading

I would say "lot tougher"

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=180022

the reason i think this rule was implemented is because lot of tutor sort of people were retaking the tests thereby inflating the actual student average. Paper GRE: I think only left in African and some south American countries

i think getting into Rutgers and NYU-Poly for you should be easy. The more important question is that if it is worth going to these institutions in current market conditions

Not allowed to retake for 60 days after an attempt (new gre rules)

Average quant score of admitted MFE students at Cornell last year was 791, just so you know. Dont know about the filter though. I got 169(98 percentile) on quant and am hoping its not too low.

detail your academic profile here and then someone will be able to guide you better

its might be a very good product but i personally feel it is over priced. P/E ratio too high;)

Kindle Fire wont go on sale as Amazon is already loosing around $10 selling each piece, the DX is not worth buying

wow

Personally i know couple people who could not get top school in US and were offered a place at LSE. Tracker just supports the view. It is nothing to do with location. There are many schools outside US which are much harder to get in than MBA at Wharton. Example: IIM Ahemdabad, India . Acceptance...

I want to work on the buy side after MFE. Want to make models and quant trading strategies. I know IB is dead for this kind of job but if i get into top MFE can i get a modeling place in a Hedge Fund or something along those lines?

we were talking about rolling admissions. I thought Baruch offered that but you would have more insight being from Baruch

Hello everyone, I graduated in September 2011 from SUNY Buffalo with B.S. Honors in Comp Science (G.P.A 4.0/4.0) B.A. Honors in Mathematics (G.P.A 4.0/4.0) During undergraduate i also took accounting, economics and finance courses (I was Finance major before switching to Maths). Took few...

Safe bet for admission, not quant job.

so the admission rate is 4%. Any info on the acceptance rate? Also i think ahe based his/her opinion after looking at the trackers at quantnet. I also have feeling that LSE is a very safe bet for a good candidate.

@Freakonometrics: Where do you get the info that the selection rate of LSE is 4%. I heard that the admission rate was around 10% and acceptance rate around 20%?

Just like in financial markets, intelligent investors buy premium products at value prices. Just purchased Macbook Pro (2.0 ghz quad core, 500 GB 7200 RPM, 4GB Ram) with 2 year remaining Apple Care for $1100 from craigslist.

forget High school, tell your college work. you have been saying you have quant back ground from high school and programming background from high school.

Hi ahe Most of the schools have few fundamental Math courses that you need to have taken in order to be even considered. These include: 1. Probability 2. Statistics 3. Differential Equations 4. Linear Agebra 5. Calculus series These are the basics, any added courses like PDE, Stochastic...

just saw few videos, dont know how Cain handles his business. He looks so lost

i would recommend not going. I think you will be wasting just too much money and taking too much risk for the little salary increase you might get. And it would be even worse if you end up getting a coding job after doing all this.

Engineers do lot more than solving theoretical math book problems, atleast at the undergraduate level. I have just completed my Bachelors in Mathematics and Computer Science. For me Math was real easy part compared to coding complex comp science projects. Also courses like Machine Learning in...

I have heard that the applications have increased substantially this year. Why not get the most amount of money with same fixed costs

I think Education is the major force behind the innovation, which had kept US ahead of the world. But now with the finest educational institutions going to countries like China we might see a major change where the next Google and Twitter are born. Assumptions: 1. The education standard of the...

I am not sure about "most". I only know of Baruch among the top programs which does that

I could not get my application my application to CMU for Round 1 and will get it there on Round 2. Lets see how it goes. But yes Round 3 is the hardest. I think Round 2 still is ok. (of course i am biased)

Go for LSE. Cass cannot even be compared to the LSE brand name

I think one should apply in the round in which he can present the best application.

go for Thinkpad W520. Lenovo issues some black friday coupons

if you want to get into good school apply next year and by that time clear your exam, get solid gre score, get a job in asset management and study a couple advanced courses of math next semster. If you want to get into tier 2 schools you can apply now. your call

i never knew that it comes up as fail on transcript so i am changing my recommendation from apply to donot apply. Fail is an extreme put off. You are not Math major and are neither from IIT so your profile was already weak and Fail kills it totally

strongly agreed. Andy had to fix a thread name yesterday

The rankings were meant for the Masters in Finance and i am still in shock what FT came up with. Also DominiConnor where is Cass placed in your books?

i would recommend applying. explain the backlog in the essay

noone can tell u if u stand a chance if u dont tell your profile completely. academic in which stream? which uni? there are a lot of factors other than gre quant which decide whether you get into the school.

CDO's??

MFEOxford: I dont know about the Oxford MFE program and it may be as good as you are portraying it to be but i can tell you that the rankings of FT are poor.The best school in US according to them is: 14 Brandeis University USA MA International Economics and Finance 67,432 24 which is...

well you have wrong info, the max for new ones is 170 while the old test can match to a maximum of 166. your score can be matched to 790 quant of old version.

You wrote you were a Math and Physics major. Where does BBA and CS come from?

Awesome scores bro. Where all you applying ddrolet ?

i thought of applying to UK schools but because of lack of data i gave up on them. Rutgers MFE is also in the same boat. They dont give acceptance rate and for me personally it is very important indicator of school quality and i think Andy Nguyen thinks the same thereby 10 percent weight to it...

I personally think that the UK programs are not transparent. Even LSE does not give acceptance rate to their Finance program. It does however give admission rate which people mistakenly take as acceptance rate and feel good about.

.05 in GPA doesnt matter. Go ahead and take the course.

then they will change percentile for 170

i would not say dead. What i think will happen is that only the best in both technical and personal skills will be able to get good jobs. Personal skills will become lot more stronger component than it was while hiring

i will say go for Rutgers as it is near NYC. Also IIT in Chicago looks good for your profile. Being in Chicago would help again.

i would advice you to wait for your exact quant score as 750- 800 is a very wide range. Your gpa seems to be bit low too. Look the tracker and the profile of students and you would be able to get an idea of what schools are for you.

Lot of Indians and Chinese students are getting to know MFE as it is getting famous in those countries. Hence the increased number of applicants. Also they dont know much abt the job situation.

u dont write stuff like this on forums. You dont know who is watching you.

well personally i have heard that if u have more than 2 undergrad degrees that can be little put off too as it shows u didnt know wht u wanna do. especially if the degrees were not connected . i will recommend retaking gre and ace it. Also the applications seem to have increased exponentially...

seems like you got below 90 percentile in your GRE or GMAT. That must would have been the biggest putoff

so it is official: the old 800 is new 166.

i think you can answer 4 questions wrong to get 94 percentile (makes sense as new questions are harder from what people say). Also for the new gre not only is harder to get 170 because all the questions should be right. you also have to answer harder questions.

the competition just got harder.

have u given the new test?

What book are you preparing from for Maths?

Steve Jobs?

they banned even google. "tht was the worst"

the ones listed as "(Semi) Backups" by the poster i personally think are tier 2

I would recommend not going to Tier 2 schools especially because of market these days. Masters in Stat can also land you the right job if you take right electives. And if you dont have to spend money there, i would advise you to take that option. Also are you from one of the SUNY schools?

i am shocked to hear that youtube is banned in China

http://www.sockshare.com/file/EB74FFAB15F158FE

I think latin honors are for undergraduate degrees.

yes you can do that.

You changed your picture. I always thought the previous picture was you. Anyway looks better now

I think he is a victim. Most probably he didnot have any good information to tell to the authorities so he couldnt even get a bargain.

Andy Nguyen Hi Andy, Can you post the acceptance numbers for CMU 2011 as they are not on the thread? Did i type the alert in right way?

RIP

thats the way they define their MFE as it is offered by the business school

http://www.quantnet.com/forum/threads/profile-evaluation-please.7551/#post-70467 This is the thread where TraderJoe mentions it. Last comment

i heard that there was a case where a student from SUNY Buffalo MFE went to UCB after completion. I think UCB can be you best bet because of the guidance provided by their director. Also do CFA to be competitive

Hi Sarah Even though you have a great profile but it is not good for MIT MFin as you donot have quantitative background like Cal1, 2,3 , Linear Algebra, Diff Eqn, Stat, Probability, Stochastic Processes .. etc Its like you are one of the very good chess player but want to join a poker school...

Are you talking about the host? He is a former US marine

Are the Structured products totally dead. Will mentioning short term career goal in Structured products in MFE application get you rejection because: 1) Maybe they will think that you don't know that the products are dead and hence didnot do proper research before applying. 2) because they are...

http://www.businessinsider.com/bloomberg-to-protesters-help-the-banks-dont-protest-them-2011-10 Bloomberg says people misguided to target banks and i agree

ya i have seen the movie. But i think EVERYONE seems to be confused about the wall street. I think Wall Street is a big target because of the concentration of lot of Investment banks at one place. People donot like lawyers and doctors earning huge money (especially the ones who dropped out of...

that video is very good

i like the beer part of it.

I hope the government is not influenced by them to take further actions. I think these people need to be explained what people do at wall street. The only thing they are concerned about is why wall streeters get paid more. They dont understant that these people go to college and lot of them...

Pig, You will have to elaborate lot more on your profile for someone to be able to help you.

the reason lot of authors are not doing ebook these days is because if it gets on internet, the book sales drop extremely.

he is : Tyler Durden

if you know other computer language then it is better as you can grasp it more quickly but being a query language it is very different from others and is lot easier too . You would not need to learn another base language bit you should spend some time grasping the structure of the language and...

For someone who might join a fund as assistant trader after MFE degree, what would be the long term options?

if you just became member of this forum to criticize the rankings( i am talking about Nubie) and want to waste other peoples time, its better you remain out. my wording is harsh but i do not like to waste my time reading such people. Quantnet is for people who want to help each other to get in...

I think you should be able to get in 1) very very easily, so go for them

got it thnx. but i am still not sure if tht is the reason as even most of the tier 1 courses have majority of international students.

arent you contradicting yourself in the statement??

well every question got counted even before. The way it is graded that you get a ful score if you are above a particular percentile. So it is relative grading, relative to other peoples score.

why not just make it 0-40 then?? I personally think that 1-2 question wrong will still get you 170 because they have to keep the new scores parallel to the old scores and hence in order to maintain the consistency so that the students who gave GRE before are not benefited, the pattern should be...

Forget Tier 1, maybe not even Tier 2. The Maths in Financial Engineering is much^2 higher than the GRE high school math. Even if you get in you will not be able to perform because of the lack of mathematical knowledge and thereby waste an year Might sound rude but that is the fact. Go for MBA...

Who said that?

Because i could not get you to the other thread, i brought the other thread here: Both CMU and MIT ask in application for long term and short term career goals? How long in years is long term and how short is short term? Is short term after graduation? Really value your opinion Andy so looking...

3-5 years after graduation right? just want to be 100 percent sure before is start writing

What should be the optimum length of resume who has done BS in Comp Science, BA in Math and have been active researcher during undergrad (only 1 publication though)?

Well i will be going full time in Fall 2012. So short term will be 2-3 years after graduation and long term 7-10 years after the graduation? Andy your comments are welcome as you have a lot of knowledge in this area

6 moth - 1 year after graduation from program or right after you had sent the application??

Both CMU and MIT ask in application for long term and short term career goals? How long in years is long term and how short is short term?

http://www.moneyscience.com/pg/blog/Admin/read/110547/a-sea-change-in-quantitative-finance

Quant being a very small and specialized area we can always tell the professors what qualities these program require and if they have seen these qualities in you and if they can write about them.

Now that everyone knows that the Letter of Recommendations are an important part of the application process, the next question is what is the "thing" that the schools are looking for while going through the letter of recommendations? What kind of quality, what kind of parameters?

Whether you get into IB is not the question. Whether you land up being a trader is the question?

that was so good

he has to look into future too. maybe those schools participate next time. writing about the schools that did not participate can make the relationships sour.

that is called giving to the community which benefit hundreds of students as there are no present resources. That is what i respect about this forum and Andy who is doing work and not whining like Emalu

I would go for BS in Comp Science. With Math degree you can enter AI industry and do very good

Quantnet has helped me immensely regarding application procedure. They are helping quant community and i thank Andy greatly for that

Atleast he is going a lot for the community. What are you doing? Sitting in your mothers basement and crying like a baby. Go call your mother if your university was not ranked. I am not in any of the ranked universities but i will apply for Fall 2012 and appreciate greatly what Andy has done. I...

ya 9AM EST

will be out in 8 hours

800/800 quant 650+ verbal depending on the program 4.5+ writing

smart Germans become engineers, smart Americans become lawyers. - That was the best part. Maybe also quants?

I am applying to Grad schools for Fall 2012. Started working on my academic resume yesterday. If you dont mind i would like to send it to you when i get done so that you can read it and help me improve. If you have time and are willing to help.

cmon guys do u have so much time to look at the mistakes in the resumes?

Its like saying the US has reduced its debt to zero. That was the most outrageous claim ever heard

I learned in my Macroeconomic 101 that outsourcing is a result of competitive advantage which is result of globalization and intense competition. hence it is good. The best and the cheapest should get the work done

well if i learn 1500 words i will be targeting for a month to learn them and then there wont be any time for the 3500. is there any good 1500-2000 word list you know of?

i have 2 months but i felt some of the words on Barrons 3500 could never be on the test now. i would rather spend my time on words i will be tested on. what would be the best vocab source for new gre? i am targeting around 1500 words?

How many words you think should be optimum for English Verbal of GRE. I started learning 3500 from Barrons but find many words useless? Do you think the new book Barrons 800 in book http://www.amazon.com/Essential-Words-GRE-Philip-Geer/dp/0764144782/ should be fine? What other sources would...

Any views from other members of the forum???

I am taking the GRE in late October and the Reporting schedule on http://www.ets.org/gre/revised_general/scores/get says that the results will be mailed approximately on December 1. Now i will submit everything in application of Columbia by November 1 but because the result will reach...

Its not only for this reason. They have been wanting to go out since long, last year they had talks with government about taxes and all. This i think will add up to the frustration to get out of London.

Does anyone see the banks slowly moving out of london given the economic and political situation? Do you think they will move towards Germany or France if the movement is towards Europe?

I think his comments are too immature for the forum and so is he.

Please post request to Andy if you want BigBadWolf banned.

Well you have proved that you are too immature for this forum by calling other people stupid.

Maybe you have had the misfortune of meeting the worst of the students. I am currently studying in one of the very good public schools in US. I am Comp Science major and i know fellow Americans who are senior(comp science major) and dont know how to compile the C code. I myself am very...

It would have been a fact had he been there himself.

This is racial comment. Were you there at the university when the professor delivered the lecture? If not, i would like you to remove the comment.

With phd you should be able to begin as Associate

If Uniform Yes

Normal Random Variable or Uniform Random Variable?

Hi Andy Nguyen, Thanks for the reply What is more important recommendation from professors who know you personally and can write personalized letters but are not that highly ranked or professors who are highly ranked but dont know you that well so will write generic letter. Also where should...

Tsotne, I have a solid background in C++ as i have done lot of Operating System projects and other projects outside academic curriculum. I am worried about not having taken Num Analysis 1 and 2. How do you think can i boost my profile? Should i extend my graduation to take Num Analysis or...

Hi Can you please evaluate my profile. More than asking whether i can get in or not in top programs, i am asking what more should i do so as to boost my chances of getting into one of the top 10 schools for Masters in CF. Undergraduate School: State University of New York at Buffalo...

Please Please Please Evaluate my profile I want to apply to the best of MFE programs for Fall 2012. If you can advice me what all should i do in next 1 year before the summer to boost my chances of getting in the MFE programs. I really really need your feedback Profile: Honors BS in...

What do you think about GRE Subject Test?

I am an honors student at SUNY Bufallo. I will graduate in May 2011. I am currently a double degree student. I will get a Honors BS degree in Comp Science with NSF Certification in Data Intensive Computing and a Honors BA in Math. I am thinking of applying to class of Fall 2012 for best MFE...